Friday, December 24, 2010
Merry Xmas SHAC
It's at this time of year that our thoughts turn to SHAC and the vast majority of them currently imprisioned. We hope they enjoy their mock turkey vegan cardboard burgers and that they remember - you still have another 3 or 4 of these to go.
SHAC - deal with them, spend Xmas inside!
Monday, December 20, 2010
Friday, December 17, 2010
World SHAC Roundup from a SHACWATCHER
in the night of 9 december 2010 an attempted arson attack took place on a building of Astra Zeneca(AZ) in Wedel, Germany. After cutting through the fence, four petrol bombs were placed around the building. Two never went off, a third burnt for a few minutes and then went out, the fourth burned for about ten minutes until the fire brigade arrived and out it put with a quick squirt of a hose.
The good news is that German police were able to collect excellent forensic evidence including DNA from one of the bombs that didn't go off.
SHAC Canada - demos at wrong sites
SHAC Sweden - demos at wrong site
SHAC Germany - Attack fails
SHAC UK - everyone who matters in prison
SHAC France - two demos then gave up
SHAC Holland - leaders all arrested
SHAC Belgium - Leaders all in prison
SHAC Italy - one demo, gave up
SHAC USA - everyone in prison
SHAC Ireland - demos down to two people
Huntingdon Life Sciences - Expanding operations, profits up, new site up and running with SHAC having no idea of where it is, important drug testing continuing, lives being saved.
Thanks SHACWATCHER
UPDATE
Further to the round up there is one country's failure that so deserves a mention
SHAC Poland, three pimply students in need of a good wash and a square meal had a demo outside the office of Astra Zeneca in Katowice. The Poles have a more robust approach to site security and one of the guards came out and shouted at them which caused the only man there to burst into tears. The girls comforted him and they went home to lick their wounds.
Funny I agree but the best is yet to come, one of the guards recognised one of the girls and he went to see her priest, all stopped demos when the priest told their mothers what they were doing.
Monday, December 13, 2010
Perspective from a real AR supporter
The AR movement and Veganism are growing in Britain, slowly it's true but growing all the same and organisations such as SHAC and individuals such as Steele are not a part of either. We don't need them and we don't want them.
The damage done by SHAC to the bigger cause of closing HLS is probably incalcuable. I don't know if that was deliberate, I hope not, I prefer to think it was just enthusiasm that become incompetence. After 15 years in the movement I am convinced that direct action does not work is counter productive and certainly alienates the public whose support we need. Without the SHAC campaign I fully believe HLS would have closed by now, before SHAC started HLS was in a terrible financial state but the attacks on it have allowed it to get preferential funding, government support and to play the victim. A terrible result of 10 years work. The last set of financial information showed that HLS is growing !
History shows that all changes to unjust laws have come about through popular support driving legislation, the direct action element in fact slows the changes that are needed. Votes for woman is an obvious example, the laws abolishing slavery another. These campaigns were won by changing public opinion not by direct action and most of all not by drunken louts with an eye on a money making opportunity.
Best wishes on SHACWATCH
For the animals
Saturday, December 4, 2010
Lukes Failures so far...
So Just for fun lets list Lukes failures so far! SHACWATCH will get the ball rolling:-
NARN
Stop Leicester Labs
What can you remember?
UPDATE
Luke banned from Sumac centre
On Friday 10th December, the vegan catering group Veggies are having one of their food give away events at Sumac Center in Nottingham. Because of his appaling behaviour at both Sumac and at previous events he has been asked to stay away. Veggies see themselves as the acceptable face of veganism and do not want to be assocaited with the extremist fringe plus he's been a twat so many times at Sumac he's pissed off a lot of people.
Wednesday, December 1, 2010
Stupid Cow
There is no other way to describe this - the pointless waste of oxygen above is Janet Tomlinson - she was actively involved in the disgusting and morally bankrupt campaign that ended up digging up the bones of a grandmother . Janet can't handle the shame of that fact and refuses to accept her guilt.
She is now refusing to pay her TV licence because the BBC broadcast the truth - they have even wasted their time and money dealing with a complaint from Janet that naturally found her to be wrong - again!
The BBC pointed out that the caged defendants knew where the body was buried - literally!
Shacwatch suggest she be locked up for her current crime - nothing else will get through.
As we have said before - you did do that - you are that sick - own your guilt and grow up.
UAAC
UPDATE
Perhaps Janet can give us all a statement now on why having told others that using medication that had been developed using animals was "disgusting" and "morally repugnant" she felt it was ok for her when she had breast cancer back in 2004 ? Janet was apparently more than willing to momentarily put aside her lofty principles and accept for herself what she is committed to denying others: access to the full armamentarium of diagnostic tools and treatments necessary to deal with potentially devastating health problems.
Perhaps she could pass on a word of thanks to those doctors who using animals as part of their research produced the drugs that saved her life ?
Monday, November 29, 2010
Wait for the Force, Luke
It was suggested by one respected member of the animal rights movement that Steele had become a "mini Greg", but without any intelligence.
They tried, but failed to come up with a plan to stop Steele from bringing the animal rights movement into further disrepute.
The majority of his fellow activists are dismayed by his always wanting to be the center of attention, his drunken and loutish behavior and his nastiness to any of his comrades who happen to disagree with him.
What ever will they do to solve the Luke Steele problem?
Friday, November 26, 2010
SULISWATCH
BTW did you really think we can't read all of your 'closed lists' and other email systems? Try a more nutritious diet - you may be able to concentrate a bit better.
A comment Promoted
More youngsters groomed and discarded
More young lives ruined
SHACWATCH readers may remember the sad little demo run at the Spirit of Christmas fair held at the London Olympia centre back in November 2009.
In many ways it was nothing special, a fur company was exhibiting so a few SHAC types decided to protest. Regretfully one of those who was talked into protesting (some say coerced) was told by a SHAC liar that there would be no risk in doing this, they would not got arrested and there was no chance of a police record.
Regretfully for the rather gullible individual involved this was not the case:£500 court costs£300 fineTwo year restraining orderA criminal record.The result of this ?
A previous job offer now withdrawn, a bank loan rejected and now can't even get interviews for jobs because of the criminal conviction.
Of course some did ok, the SHAC adviser who said none of this would happen - ran away and has refused to respond to email and phone messages.
Another SHAC victim, groomed, used, discarded.
Thanks for the comment - keep up the good work
Friday, November 19, 2010
Do you like our new Banner?
Look at it and, ignoring the ancient predator and her dog, look at the ages of the last SHAC batch to go down - imagine how much their lives are now ruined - and, as they are young, calculate how long those ruined lives will last.
Ruined by SHAC
UAAC
Tuesday, November 16, 2010
FITWATCH ?
We do however understand that our old foe and drunkard Loony Lyn contributes on an occasional basis.
That alone is just cause to have the blog taken down - Well done CO11
Tuesday, November 9, 2010
Justice - don't make us laugh
In a petulant posting an old, dead and failed group - the Justice Department have suggested they might return to the active status - they describe themselves as the last generation of AR activists - they mean the one before last.
The last generation, failed idiots like Greg and Nat are in prision - the next generation - Luke, the fool and 'raven' are more accurately described as the special needs generation.
These - if they exist at all are tired, spent and embittered parodies like Ronnie, John Curtin, Robin and Jill P. You could have read about them on Arkangel - but that failed too!
So while they sit on their leather sofas and eat their Waitrose vegi burgers they will need to ponder - if the last lot got 11 years for 'non violent' conspiracy - what will we get, when, inevitably we are caught?
Non Vegan food for thought - eh Dr Joe!
Thursday, November 4, 2010
Happy Horne Day!
Tommorow is Barry Horne Day - the day Barry died after a failed hunger strike (he gave up). SHAC celebrate this day as a day marking their historic failures.
Lets join in by listing their failures for them!
HLS not just still open but expanding.
5 More imprisoned for a total of 17 years.
SHAC 'activity' consists of 1 or 2 emaciated idiots shouting at a fence.
Leader now a illiterate idiot from Newcastle.
Until the few left are caged.......
Saturday, October 30, 2010
A terrorist called Mumsy: The retired nurse who was the mastermind behind a vicious and ruthless IRA-style gang of animal rights fanatics
To her neighbours in Littlehampton, Sarah Whitehead was a pleasant, if slightly dotty, former nurse. While surrounding homes in the West Sussex town were well-kept, the 52-year-old let her garden become overgrown — providing private sanctuary, she said, for all manner of unwanted pets, from guinea pigs to rescued dogs.
By day, the dark-haired woman was often seen out walking her dogs with a younger, blonde companion — her lesbian partner. By night, she was heard talking to her assorted animals in the garden.
‘She was always polite and would nod hello,’ says one neighbour. ‘We knew she kept loads of creatures in her back garden, but she really did try to keep herself to herself. She was a bit odd — but no odder than half the folk you meet.’
To add to the impression she gave of being a harmless, quintessentially English eccentric, she was also known by the nickname ‘Mumsy’ to her wide circle of young friends, who visited from around the country.
But all this was a cynical, well-rehearsed sham. For there was nothing remotely maternal about Sarah ‘Mumsy’ Whitehead.
From her home, where she used sophisticated computer technology to plan attacks, Whitehead was one of the key figures behind a shadowy group of animal rights fanatics who waged a campaign of terror against anyone connected — however tenuously — to any forms of testing on animals.
In a network that stretched from southern England to Europe and the U.S., Whitehead was part of an alliance of extremists who dug up human remains, smeared enemies as paedophiles and even targeted couriers and caterers supplying Home Office-licensed laboratories.
This weekend, as Whitehead begins a six-year jail sentence for the campaign of terror (and she is already complaining to prison officers about being made to wear leather shoes) the full details of her double life can be revealed for the first time.
Whitehead’s capture — along with the jailing of former tailor Greg Avery, another leading activist — has provided an unprecedented insight into the secret world of these fanatics, who for years have evaded arrest by operating in ‘cells’ and undergoing extensive training in how to avoid police surveillance.
‘They studied the structures of the IRA and also held regular training sessions at safe houses, where they were told how to spot undercover officers and ensure they weren’t being followed,’ says Andy Robins, the dog-loving detective who arrested Mumsy and her followers after a five-year undercover operation, codenamed Achilles.
‘Sarah Whitehead was a corrupting influence on younger members,’ adds Robins. ‘She was a mother figure to some of the others, hence the nickname. But she was also utterly committed to her cause.’
Jailed alongside Whitehead were other, younger members of the gang: Nicole Vosper, 22, Thomas Harris, 27, Jason Mullan, 32, and Nicola Tapping, 29. Alfie Fitzpatrick, a public schoolboy aged just 17 when he was recruited, was given a suspended sentence.
All the youngsters worked alongside Whitehead in Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (SHAC), a seemingly respectable pressure group formed in 1999. SHAC volunteers even became a feature of the British High Street, where Whitehead and her fellow volunteers collected funds and tried to recruit new members.
Up and down the country, volunteers also distributed shocking pictures (later found, in fact, to include material from illegal labs in the Middle East) of alleged cruelty at Huntingdon Life Sciences, the subject of SHAC’s increasingly aggressive campaign.
Employing 16,000 people, Huntingdon is the largest private company involved in testing medicines and chemicals on animals, with its global headquarters in Cambridgeshire. The company says that its research breakthroughs have saved and enhanced the lives of countless human beings.
‘This is nothing to do with animal rights — this was a criminal conspiracy, involving blackmail and violence, designed to create a climate of fear among their victims.’
Publicly, Whitehead and other members of the group preached non-violent protests against Huntingdon. But privately, they were secretly plotting ‘operations’ — including fire-bombings and acid attacks — on all aspects of its business, with the aim of forcing it to close down.
The strategy was straightforward: any businesses with any connection to Huntingdon, including even sandwich delivery men and cleaning firms, were warned in telephone calls to sever all ties.
If the warnings went unheeded, anonymous letters were sent to the neighbours of these ordinary businessmen and women, warning that they were convicted paedophiles and could pose a threat to children.
Mud stuck. Some Huntingdon employees were forced to leave their homes. In what amounted to blackmail, the targets were offered a deal: stop working with Huntingdon and your name will be removed from websites and the attacks will stop. Facing ruin, many local businesses did just that.
The violence worked. SHAC was raising £3,000 a week in street donations alone, meaning Mumsy Whitehead and leaders of the group could be full-time activists.
Huntingdon was in meltdown, with staff leaving and suppliers refusing to deliver. The share price collapsed — from £300 in the 1990s to 3p in 2001.
(c) Daily Mail
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Censored at Indylies - Published here!
Lots of attempts to talk this up with posts to the usual websites (Indylies etc) saying, "not to bad", "could have been worse" etc etc. The real state of affairs is of course very different.
At least three of them expected to walk away yesterday under 'time served' so going back to jail was a shock.
The total jail time for the bigger fish was longer than anticipated and this last round of court time has pretty much bought SHAC to an end as an AR campaign group.
The important work in AR is now being done by others who have distanced themselves from SHAC recognising that real results are achieved through politics not by getting middle aged women with hormonal problems, pre op transexuals and the more extreme parts of the feminist movement ("all men are rapists") to stand outside buildings and shout through megaphones.
SHAC is finaly near death and SHACWatch has played a part in that killing, the important work of animal welfare can now be concentrated on.
Monday, October 25, 2010
Hate Crimes punished
Nicole Vosper, Sarah Whitehead, Thomas Harris, Nicola Tapping and Jason Mullan were jailed for between 15 months and six years.
They admitted targeting staff from the supply firms of Huntingdon Life Sciences, Winchester Crown Court heard.
Alfie Fitzpatrick, 21, received a 12-month suspended prison sentence.
He also admitted taking part and was ordered to complete 100 hours of community work.
Harris and Tapping are from Gosport in Hampshire while Jason Mullen is from London and Fitzpatrick from Solihull, West Midlands.
Vosper is from Newquay in Cornwall and and Whitehead is from Littlehampton, West Sussex.
The six were all members of a group called Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty (SHAC).
The court heard how the group waged an international campaign of intimidation against a host of companies to try to force the closure of Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS).
Whitehead, 53, of Thorncroft Road, was jailed for six years and made the subject of a 10-year anti-social behaviour order when released.
Vosper, 22, was jailed for three-and-a-half years and given a five-year anti-social behaviour order.
Saturday, October 23, 2010
Vultures gather round the corpse of SHAC
Poor old SHAC - can't even die with dignity.
UAAC
Thursday, October 21, 2010
Four admit Huntingdon Life Sciences hate campaign
Thomas Harris, 27, admitted conspiracy to blackmail representatives and those associated with Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS) with menaces.
Nicola Tapping, 29, Jason Mullen, 32, and Alfie Fitzpatrick, 20, admitted intimidating firms with HLS contracts.
Nicole Vosper, 22, and Sarah Whitehead, 53, had admitted a conspiracy charge.
Harris and Tapping are from Gosport in Hampshire while Jason Mullen is from London and Fitzpatrick from Solihull in the West Midlands.
'Threats of violence'Vosper is from Newquay and Whitehead is from Littlehampton.
The six waged an international campaign of intimidation against a host of companies to try to force the closure of HLS.
Homes of staff from the supply firms were targeted with abusive telephone calls and criminal damage and threats of violence were also used to force companies to cut links with HLS.
The BBC - telling it as it is
More are caged today !
Monday, October 18, 2010
Hammer Time 2
The next batch of SHAC are due to be sent down this week!
There is no doubt this time as all have pleaded GUILTY - finally they have stopped the lying!
How long will they get? Will anybody be released?
We will know soon.....
Until All are Caged.
Friday, October 15, 2010
Fools fall out
Apparently it's handbags at dawn between The original FOOL and the new Northen Fool.
Foolish children - your petty squabbles are irrelvent when you consider you many other failings.
Grow up first - get propper jobs and stop irritating those that have.
Then you can fight each other as long as you like!
Monday, October 11, 2010
Who's Sorry Now?
However in a move that is pure farce they have announced demos at loads of venues - get real SHAC - there is only 6 of you left - who on earth do you think can be bothered to support your delusions?
Why not grow up, recognise your severe limitations and go and get a life - you might be able to achieve that - and achievement is somthing you lack.
Tuesday, October 5, 2010
Stupid Boy - Luke
Thursday, September 30, 2010
Well Done!
Friday, September 24, 2010
Lyn Fails - again
Grow up Lyn - you cut a pathetic figure there on the edge of the AR movement encouraging the gullible to do things you are too scared to do yourself.
Thursday, September 23, 2010
Thursday, September 16, 2010
A promoted comment
In reality this is a sign of the ongoing failure of the SHAC campaign, the desperation of those running it and the serious lack of new ideas. SHAC is having to demo outside of these companies with no real link to HLS because all their old targets simply now ignore them and their demos achieve nothing.
The SHAC campaign has resulted in nothing, the leadership is in jail, the funding is at an all time low and support is close to zero among the wider activist community. Even among die hard AR people there is a recognition that the SHAC tactics have lost them support in the outside world, that AR looks irrelevant to most people's lives at that most view SHAC as nutters.
Saturday, September 11, 2010
SHAC sick predation blocked
Other good news
Robert Griffiths who was released earlier this month will be getting the help he needs and several family members are working to keep him away from SHAC.
A spokesman for the family made a brief statement,
Robert has had a difficult time as his type of mental illness makes him very suseptible to suggestion. This illness was exploited by individuals in the animal liberation movement who used him to carry out actions they were too cowardly to do.
Thanks for the Update SHACWATCHER
Wednesday, September 8, 2010
All plead Guilty - That explains it!
SHAC defeated the Crowns desire for a massive repressive show trial by all pleading guilty. This prevents the NETCU ‘urban terrorist’ lies being re-issued endlessly. SHAC, an international campaign group calling for the closure of HLS, has been painted by the police and the press as a 'criminal organisation' duping members of the public concerned with animal abuse into donating their money to further 'a campaign of blackmail'. SHAC's activities, however, have been overwhelmingly lawful: the campaign publishes information about animal abuse inside HLS labs, reports campaigning activities and issues action alerts calling on supporters to write polite letters to companies working with HLS and ask them to desist. If those companies continue to do business with HLS, protests would usually follow. . Despite this all defendants tactically pleaded guilty and will be sentenced in October.
Well done all six defendants – you are hero’s
SHAC Winchester
Yes - Hero's in cages
Tuesday, September 7, 2010
It's all very quiet in Winchester
Tuesday, August 31, 2010
Idiot of the Week!
Well done Lewis - beating off heavy competition from all the usual SHAC suspects he has achieved Idiot of the Week - a title normally reserved in perpetuity for Lynn.
It would seem that he didn't think parole conditions applied to him -they do and he is now back inside - his parents must be proud!
Until all are properly caged.
(Ps thanks for the tip SHACWATCHERS)
Monday, August 23, 2010
Highgate Farm Protest Day 3.......
Thursday, August 19, 2010
A Lemur overreaches
I think all I will learn from future trials of SHAC activists is that the Government of the time was eager to show the industry that its opponents would be harshly dealt with. I think this is why, even if what these people did could be described as blackmail, it was certainly not the most serious form of this crime but sentences near the maximum were given.
Ah yes - it's all great big conspiracy and the Judge, the jury and everybody was in on it
More, in fact, than those involved in more straightforwardly criminal blackmail cases involving abduction with demands for money have received.
Possibly because of the number of victims and the physical and mental impact ? Or could it be the disgusting nature of some of the attacks - paedophile letters, sanitary towels!
I suspect that, given this perception, SHAC activists on trial must be tempted to plead guilty to reduce such draconian sentences.
Didn't work did it!
What do you think about the unique imposition of indefinite ASBOs for Heather, Gregg & Natasha preventing them from ever expressing their views about vivisection?
Good point - as was revealed during the trail SHAC cloaked their illegal activities with a false veneer of 'lawful protest' - the ASBO's demonstrate that the 'right' to lawful protest isn't absolute and can be withdrawn if abused - and the appeal court agreed!
This is the crux of what SHACWATCH continues to expose - SHAC is a lie - it isn't and has never been lawful - as such all that can be done is jail it! This point has been recognised by two of the second trail SHAC conspirators and they have admitted their guilt - the rest must take their chances!
Until all are caged
Wednesday, August 4, 2010
SHAC burn bunnies alive
EIGHT rabbits burned to death during an arson attack on a Lincolnshire farm for which animal rights activists claimed responsibility, it has been revealed.
If anybody has any information that could lead to the arrest of these disgusting animal abusers Shacwatch urges you to contact the police.
SHAC - torturing rabbits to death.
Friday, July 23, 2010
SHAC crawl out from under their rock!
Wednesday, July 14, 2010
Once ,Twice,Three times a loser....we don't love yooooou
SHAC / SPEAK-C /MFAH / Lukes glee club - listen up!
This is how it ends - lawful protest - everybody ignores you, the projects get built and everybody is happy.
Unlawful criminal acts like what Mel done -you get caught and you go away for a long time.
Any questions?
Welcome back from Italy BTW - This sets the tone for your return very nicley!
Until all are caged.
Tuesday, July 6, 2010
March Against the Murderers
O dear, o dear, o dear - how very embarrassing for them !
There were the usual claims for big numbers attending - 150 said one group, 250 said Steele in his original report before it was taken of his website. Some emails sent out this morning (asking of course for donations to SHAC related work) talk of 500 but as ever with SHAC events these are lies and for confirmation see the video, don't take my word for it, just watch the sad lonely, shuffle through town of the bunch of vegans that turned up. Most of us that saw them guess it was no more than about 30 or 40 (some drifted off halfway through) and what a pathetic sight they were. Ignored even by other animal rights people in the area who know full well this is no more than a Steele money making project the day was an utter failure.
funny how the words 'Steele', 'SHAC' and 'failure' seem to go together so well.
Monday, June 28, 2010
Summer Report Time!
Achievements
Pru Jailed
Sven Jailed
Pogson Jailed
Steele Jailed
Cain Jailed
Organ Fined
Appeals dismissed x2
2 further guilty pleas
Another trial due 1st September
HLS
still trading and expanding
Novartis
record profits
GSK
expanding in 3rd world markets
SHAC USA
remain guilty - appeals dismissed.
Leicester Uni
work progresses on schedule
Oxford Uni
Lab running well
Staples
that was easy
Keith Mann
mad
The Fool
a (pathetic) fool
Debz
?
Monday, June 21, 2010
Grim Up North...for SHAC
Northern SHACwatcher said...
Meanwhile a couple of SHAC types in Yorkshire are still trying to keep the money coming with yet ever more new groups. The latest is 'Stop Animal Experiments in Sheffield' They tried their best to get a few hundred together for a march at the weekend and at one stage were talking about " 4 to 500 on the streets" in the end about 50 pathetic individuals had a slow slog through the streets to the general indifference of locals.
As is now well recognised these marches are far more about recruiting the next generation of money providers and grooming the young for 'actions'.
The march was a failure
The group is a failure
SHAC is a failure
Changing names doesn't change the failure
Sunday, June 20, 2010
Organ Ground down
No danger of that ORGAN - you really couldn't look more stupid!
On a more serious note I wonder how many of the duped contributors to Organs fraudulent 'charity' know that they are paying for his failure fines!
UAAC
Thursday, June 17, 2010
Lewis out?
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
London Failure - Yes it's SHAC
Last Friday a few of the usual faces did their usual 20 minutes of shouting outside their usual buildings. One of these was of course AstraZeneca.
Now AZ people stopped taking notice of these rather sad little non events months ago but SHAC just can't stand the thought that they are ignored so they have started to come up with increasingly bizzare David Ike style allegations.
The latest of these is,"As we arrived there AZ security were already looking out for us and got on their radios"This did not seem likely so I spoke to the AZ Press Office and sure enough the truth is somewhat different.
What SHAC claimed to be AZ security were Traffic Wardens. Three of London's unit dedicated to stopping illegal parking and keeping the traffic flowing, their radio calls were in relation to a badly parked van. The SHAC losers started shouting at the wardens accusing them of being baby killers and animal exploiters but like all London Traffic Wardens (who get abused all day) they simply ignored the SHAC.
The AZ doorman who witnesed all of this passed it on to the office as it was so funny.More SHAC failure, more SHAC lies.After this failure the sad little bundle of collective stupidity threw a little tantrum and left.
What a bunch of vegans !
Thursday, May 27, 2010
More Court Time for SHAC
Having just failed to prevent another case coming to court we now know they will be appearing in September and AGAIN in January.
Is this getting through SHAC?
It won't end until you stop.
Until all are caged.
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Ironic
The main player in the ALF support group - a total fool called Mark Organ has been convicted of a bungled raid on a chicked farm!
The irony is he supplies cash to 'vegan' prisioners (and Gerrah) while they are banged up - I wonder who will do it for him?
So much for all the lies about the ALFSG being fully legal etc.....
Until All are Caged
Tuesday, May 18, 2010
A comment promoted.......
I can't speak for the author of Shacwatch but I can tell you my story. Animal Rights has been a passion of mine for over fifteen years, I have been involved in a number of campaigns, I have stood and collected money, I have written letters, I have spoken at meetings, I have marched on demos. I am convinced that SHAC, the tactics it adopted and the people who ran it have done more to set back the cause of Animal Rights in Britain that just about anything else, that's why I read and very occasionaly contribute to Shacwatch.
I believe SHAC to be corrupt, to have used money intended for AR work to support the lives of an inner elite, to have crossed the lines into terrorism on occasion and worst of all, very worst of all to have allowed the arguments around this so very important issue to be lost.
SHAC achieved nothing, it alienated people who supported the cause, it wasted money, it lied about infiltration of its organising team and compromised the details of thousands of supporters, it allowed the government to portray AR people as criminals and nutcases just at the time when support for the cause was growing and it gave an excuse to the state to prop up groups like HLS which would have probably folded by now as a result of commercial pressure.
AR work in Britain is now twice as hard as it once was because of SHAC, people who I know no longer sent money to AR causes or are prepared to come on demos because they do not want to be associated with the SHAC label.The sooner SHAC is finaly compltely gone the better.
FOR THE ANIMALS
Thanks for your heartfelt comments
Friday, May 14, 2010
Coalition of the defeated
It seems bits of the failed SPEAK campaign have been protesting with bits of the failed and jailed SHAC campaign and all under the illiterate direction of the notorious failed ALF activist Luke Steele.
Grow up – the steelwork is already up in Leicester – so you have failed there as well– meanwhile other universities are building their own facilities.
UAAC
Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Yet another ALF/SHAC loon
Meet Robert Griffith - he is caged for sending disgusting letters to innocent members of the public - like so many SHAC supporters Robert has learning difficulties.
Makes you wonder what sort of sick campaign would use a bloke like Robert in such a way - but this isn't the first time SHAC has done this. Remember Jameson? or Jaggers?
SHAC - abusing those with learning dificulties for their evil ends
Tuesday, May 11, 2010
SHAC fraud (again)
If SHACWATCH documented every case of fraud and theft of donations that have been linked to SHAC there would be very little else on the site !
The use of SHAC fund raisng to fund the lifestyles of various members is now so well known it's hardly worth talking about. Adrian Radford has talked about what Natasha Avery spent donations on. Trevor Holmes was well known for his "expenses". Even Virginia Steele has asked about what her money was being spent on.
At one stage each SHAC street stall was generating around £200 a day after costs (this has dropped to about £30 now and there are far less stalls) with some insiders estimating that about 50% of this went directly to supporting the lifestles of Greg, Natasha and Heather.
The good news is that animal rights supporters are much more clued up these days and spend their money where it weill help animals not fund Greg's holidays.
Thanks for the reminder SHACWATCHER
Friday, May 7, 2010
Animal Protection Party is a Joke!
Wake up SHAC - nobody supports your tired sick agenda - you define 'minority' - you will not be allowed to impose your stupid and repulsive views on others!
Sunday, April 25, 2010
SHAC panned by the BBC
This Video has been sent to SHACWATCH by a reader - thanks as we missed it!
In it we have The Fool saying 'you can imprison as many of us as you like' - Thanks fool - that is what is happening - lots more going down soon! He also says he doesn't think anybody has been terrorised by SHAC - clearly his low protein diet is affecting his mental faculty.
There is also an incoherent ramble from Debz (was she drunk?)
The balanced report contains the fact that in the last 6 years animal testing in the UK has increased each year - hows about that for a performance indicator SHAC?
Great stuff - UAAC
Thursday, April 22, 2010
Well Done Austria.....
This is Martin - Martin runs the ALF in Austria - he has been in the UK too and is a good mate of Keith Mann ( although he isn't a space alien).
The Austrian state has decided it is fed up with the childish, dishonest and disgusting actions of the ALF and SHAC so they are prosecuting them and putting them in cages - just like they did in the UK.
Well Done Austria - lets see if other EU nations can clear SHAC out as well. As they say in Austria - Bis alle werden in Käfigen gehalten
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Poor old Dan - pratt!
Poor old Dan Wadham! He is now back in a normal wing in his prison on the IoW - because he has been a pratt.
Little Dan decided that as his life was so good inside he would do a sponsored walk - for SEA-SHEPHERD - yes the group accused of piracy in Japan. Naturally the prison quickly banged him up in a proper cell as soon as they heard.
Wake up and smell the un enhanced coffee SHAC - your activities and views are not acceptable - you are not allowed to continue them. Your behaviour will no longer be tolerated.
Grow up Dan - try and behave and you may get out in a couple of years or so.
SHACWATCH will be watching.
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Mels out!
He will soon be (re) caged.
Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Where are they now?
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
View from the North.....
- In UK news Luke Steele's latest money making idea SAEAB (Stop Animal Experiments at Bradford) seems to have been recognised as such by a number of Yorkshire AR people. As one activist in the area wrote,
"Dear Luke,
Would you please stop making these one-man-campaign announcements? You're seriously alienating the rest of the AR community in Yorkshire by going off on your own like this.... you could become a liability..... We all know that SAEAB is your personal vanity project so please will you start putting the animals before your own ego? "
Other Yorkshire area people knowing full well Luke's links to the Far Right have kept their distance from this unpleasant individual. Having had experience of Luke's offers to "look after the money" in the past a number of former SHAC people in the region are wisely keeping Luke well away from donations received.
No longer are people fooled by SHAC attempts to 'rebrand' and keep the cash flowing under a new name.
Of course many within SHAC still want to know who out of Cain and Luke Steele it was who gave info to the police in return for a lesser sentence last year. Care to share that with us Luke ?
New name - same old failure- Thanks Northern SHACWATCHER
Saturday, March 20, 2010
Hey Pru your boyfriends back!
Her boyfriend Sven has now also been caught and brought back to Holland - never mind Pru the Dutch are quite liberal and may allow you to visit each other while your are serving your lengthy terms!
It's worth noting that this wouldn't be happening to you had you grown up and left the SHAC loonies to their dribbling and ranting!
Until ALL are caged - we don't care where.
Friday, March 19, 2010
ever Foolish......
Patrick had to pull the plug out of the music system and the toffs [Alan Buttle and Lia Amos] went and found a generator and put the music back on until gone 5am.
Thye have since laughed their toff heads off about thisbraying how Patrick went MENNNTTTAAALLL!!!!
They even had the cheek to raid the food in the basement. Buttle said that it's stupid for an AR gathering@ to power down at 10pm.
Cops and professional infiltrators couldn't have done a better job in disrupting and wrecking the gathering. Sleep deprivation is used as a tactic by police at large activist events.
Ah Yes - The Fool Strikes again! - he has been throwing his weight about at POGO as well - so that will fail soon
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
More of that......
Friday, March 5, 2010
Hypocrisy free AR posters
SHAC scrape barrel (again)
Oh Dear - look at this - it's all getting very pathetic. These senior citizens should be at home in the warm with a nice mug of coco, not making fools of themselves in support of a terrorist fraud.
If you are responsible for these people - shame on you - if you are these people then you are certainly old enough to know what you are doing is morally and socially unacceptable.
SHAC is a disgusting fraud - anybody associated with it is either too stupid or too twisted to realise that.
Wednesday, March 3, 2010
SHAC France fail - Plus Ca Change!
SHAC France decided to mount a protest outside AstraZeneca (Yawn!)
They emailed and called activists in the Paris region with talk of a "big" demo.
Only seven losers turned up
They posted to the SHAC website claiming double that and then posted pictures showing quite clearly that there were less numbers than they claimed.
I'm not sure if it is the unhealthy vegan diet, the general stupidity of people involved with SHAC or just the inability to understand that doing the same thing time and time again with the same result (failure) is one of the signs of madness but whatever the reason it seems likely that SHAC in France is just as hopeless as their UK cousins.
What a bunch of vegans !
Friday, February 26, 2010
No Shit Sherlock!
The disintergration of SHAC has started to manifest itself with two tactics of late. The first has been one that other SHACWATCHERS have seen, the creation of a new name for the same bunch of vegans to try and fool people that their cult is growing (West Yorks Animal Rights, Bradford Animal Rights etc etc)the second is to try and present events as some sort of victory for the AR movement despite quite obviously being nothing of the sort.
We saw this a little while ago where a group contacted a number of universities that do not do animal research, asked them to confirm they didn't and on that basis claimed it as a success. The latest bunch to try and fool people using this methodology is the so called Animal Liberation Investigation Unit which in reality is a pasty faced ALF reject with body odur issues and a rather troubled young woman who has never quite got over being dumped by a previous boyfriend.
This bunch of nutters, in their words "gained access to the former site of Yamanouchi Research Institute on Littlemore Park near Oxford" - in fact they walked into an empty building. They fully admit they know the company had moved when they said,
"We already knew the site no longer belonged to Yamanouchi or Astellas Pharma" but obviously thinking that the average AR supporter would not be able to put together 2 and 2 they stated,
"however are now in a position to confirm that animal experiments are no longer taking place at the former-YRI site. "
Well no shit Sherlock ! Using this thinking I am also able to confirm that car produciton is no longer taking place at the former Rover plant in Birmingham and that coal production has stopped at all the pits that have been shut !
One thing that they forgot to mention, the facility had closed because the company moved to a brand spanking new bigger facility, one that this bunch of vegans have been unable to discover the location off.
Wednesday, February 24, 2010
APP - don't blame us!
This is an example:-
Keith Mann has changed beyond all recognition since joing the APP or SPEAK Political. He has aired dirty laundry and made false accusations against other AR people in public. He is not at the top of the animal rights pryamid as has been claimed on Wikipedia. He wrote that himself on Wikipedia. He emailed a lot of lies about an innocent person publicly to hundreds of strangers via Facebook. This was then aired in public on Indymedia and Keith was shown up to be a liar. He has an unhealthy obssession with aliens, David Icke and conspiracy theories. He has become an embarassment to AR.
SPEAK Political are mostly very odd people who have spread all sorts of misinformation since their arrival into AR. They are believed by many to be a private investigation firm who are out to get AR people and who's members have described Bradford animal testing labs as "world class research facilities".
What's even worse is that some of the people in the APP hate Keith with a passion.
The whole APP fiasco has been a disaster from beginning to end.
We will answer Steve Discombe : If NETCU are saying that the APP are nothing to do with you then that's what you are saying. We think that the APP are hired by a private investigation company who are out to get AR people on behalf of the Medical Research Council.
Why are the APP saying they are nothing to do with SHAC? Most of the APP go on SHAC demos. Why disassociate yourselves from SHAC like this? Why stand against AC? The APP are causing division and are not genuine AR people. There is something wrong with the APP.
Thing is SHACWATCH is getting blamed for these posts - we have news for you SHAC - it's not us. It's other, deranged, AR nutters that don't like you!
No real surprise though - disgust for you and your activities is pretty universal.
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
It won't work SHAC
Oh and the next trial begins soon - two have already pleaded guilty - just like last time!
Monday, February 15, 2010
SHAC National Failure
From a SHACWATCHER
These series of events at Bradford were leading up to an event on Saturday that had the dubious pleasure of speakers as recognised in the AR scene as Luke Steele, Amanda Richards, Debbie Vincent and Sean Kirtley. The local organisers had pushed this event as "a massive demo" with the usual round of emails and telephone calls to try and get people to attend. They really pulled out all the stops but despite this less than eighty people bothered to turn up for a boring shuffle through the area in the rain.
Amanda Richards from Speak Campaigns was without doubt the worst, a rambling justification of her own failure with a couple of the usual soundbites about Oxford University, the majority of the crowd wasn't even listening by the end.
SHAC's Debbie Vincent was to be blunt simply embarrasing and organisers of these events really need to consider if he/she should allowed near a microphone in the future, by the end even diehard SHAC supporters could be seen shuffling their feet and staring at the ground.
Being a SHAC event there was of course the usual attempt at violence toward the end but this was quickly dealt with by the local Bradford police. Assistant Chief Constable Mark Gilmore who would usualy attend big civil disturbance events didn't even bother to turn up such was the confidence the police had in low numbers for the event. Cleary they had inside knowledge.
The campaign must now return to the important task of writing the press release and deciding the reasons why this was a 'success'. This SHACWATCHER anticipates they will 1) inflate the numbers attending 2)lie about local support 3)blame the police for something.
Even after a change of name the stench of failure remains for anything which has links to SHAC.
Thanks for the accurate report SHACWATCHER - until all are caged
PS - Thanks for the hi res photo's Northern Indymedia - this link:-
https://northern-indymedia.org/system/photo/2010/02/14/441/ice_rink.jpg
Allows you to do an accurate head count - we get to about 77!
Friday, February 12, 2010
Luke does a SHAC in Bradford.....
....A couple of days previously they had once again had a day out at Bradford University, they first visited Yorkshire Forward (an academic funding group ) but got ignored so they pushed off to the university itself. During registration they confused a number of new students with some incoherent shouting before again shuffling off to the bemused laughs of the staff and students.
The final humiliation for them was a mini bus tour of other parts of the campus where once again they were met with derisive laughter and much finger pointing by staff and students alike.
Alex a new student at Bradford spoke for many when he said,
"We don't really understand what they were shouting about, some people thought they were drunk, I had assumed it was a stunt to raise money for Haiti either way it was very confusing trying to work out what they wanted "
More failure - more wasted lives - Luke has already spent considerable time inside - he has no skills whatsoever - take a bow Mrs Steele - try and do the right thing for him even if your entire life has been a failure up to this point.
Monday, February 8, 2010
Were is SHAC?
So where are they? Is this the way it ends - not even a whimper!
Pathetic really
Friday, February 5, 2010
Shock Shac revalation - Lynn can read!
Lynn can READ!
Yes - I know that this means she has no excuse for her startling ignorance and predation of youngsters but facts are facts.
Lynn – too ashamed to post under her own name has written a little piece about a police manual – she is upset as it lists her as an extremist and even worse the manual is published by Oxford University!
Lynn has friends in prison for failing to prevent the building of an animal house at Oxford!
So much failure surrounding such a worthless individual – karma or somthing else?.
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
Back Up - Let the ridicule continue
Well done SHAC - we were running out of things to say about you as your website is the only place anybody discusses you at all (apart from here)!
More caged soon - end of this month for the next court apperance.
Sunday, January 31, 2010
SHAC down - never mind
Shac.net is down!
Don't panic SHAC - we are still up and will bring you all the essential news you need.
The really good news is that SHACWATCH will remove all the spin and hype for you - you won't need to add nought to the number of protesters that didn't turn up etc.
Well done SHAC - you really do know how to fail on a global scale!
Friday, January 29, 2010
SHAC Sweden FAIL
It seems that SHAC Sweden has the same level of intellegence as their partners in crime in the UK. The SHAC website records a vist to the home of a company director that SHAC Sweden had decided to target, the demo report however fails to record the fact that SHAC Sweden went to the wrong house ! ROFL !
This report from the Swedish newspaper - Folkbladet details an interview with the local police chief, translated it reads,
"It seems this group were trying to find the home of a medical company executive but came to the house of a dentist who had the same family name and is listed in medical directory. He tried to explain to them the mistake they had made "
http://www.folkbladet.se/nyheter/norrkoping/artikel.aspx?articleid=5095169
Thanks for the update SHACWATCHER!
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
SHAC demo hits new low
This was the scene at Novartis in Horsham - two 'ladies' of a certain age shouting at 10foot fences covered in black netting - nobody inside could hear - nobody cared.
One lone security bloke came out as SHAC had said they were coming (under their pathetic cover name - hint don't use SHAC posters if you are supposed to be sombody else!)
It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic - well done SHAC your prisoners can be proud.
SHAC - the definition of failure.
Monday, January 25, 2010
Sick Wolverhampton grave robber launches music career from prison cell
AN ANIMAL rights nut who stole the body of a Midland grandmother from her grave is trying to become a popstar from his jail cell.
Jon Ablewhite, 39 and from Wolverhampton, was caged for 12 years in 2006 for a sickening six year hate campaign against a family and their guinea pig farm in Newchurch, Staffordshire.
The bald-headed vicar’s son admitted trying to blackmail farmer David Hall in a sustained attack that eventually led to his gang of fanatics digging up the body of Gladys Hammond, whose son-in-law co-owned the farm.
Currently being held at HMP Ranby in Nottinghamshire, the grave robber has now set up an online profile for his one man band, and has even posted pictures of himself posing with young women on prison visits.
The fanatic has also dismissed his incarceration in prison as like being “in my beautiful home from home”.
On his Myspace social networking webpage – which Ablewhite says is updated by his “wonderful friends” – he goes by his stage name of Vegandia, and encourages other animal rights supporters to get in touch.
“I’m currently serving a 12 year prison sentence for animal rights activism,” he tells his online pals.
“The reason for this Myspace page is to create a place where I can connect with other like-minded people.
“I would love to hear your thoughts on my music – in fact, I’d just love to hear from you.
“I am always into meeting new people so if anyone wants to come and visit me in my beautiful home from home, just drop me a line at the prison and get your ass down here.”
The crook has posted two tuneless tracks on the site entitled Angelface: How could you? and Political Animals.
Cunning Ablewhite is even looking to make a profit out of his musical offerings, urging friends on his Myspace page to “donate” money in exchange for copies of his CD.
Along with his songs, the thug has included some of his prison poetry, and a blog about life behind bars for his 147 online supporters to read.
Posting a comment on the site one user calling themselves VegFreak writes: “From me and everyone else, thanks for all the work you did. You are one of the innocent people in jail and hope you get out soon. xxxx”
Another friend said: “You are a wonderful person and, though locked away, there’s people out there who do think of you and all the other wonderful brave people who risk life and limb for others and defenseless animals.”
The body of 82 year-old Mrs Hammond was snatched from her burial plot at St Peter’s churchyard in Yoxall, Staffs, by Ablewhite and his cronies in October 2004.
The former teacher turned blackmailer was caught when police examined an e-mail account Ablewhite had set up using a computer at Wolverhampton City Library in May 2005.
Liaising with the FBI, detectives used counter-terrorism powers to explore the account, where they found he had provided a list of tips for other activists encouraging them to take part in an “ongoing Holocaust” against the Hall family and their farm.
Three other members of Ablewhite’s Save The Newchurch Guinea Pigs (SNGP) group – convicted thugs John Smith, 43, from Leicester, Kerry Whitburn, 39, from Birmingham and 40-year-old Josephine Mayo – were also jailed in 2006 for violence, threats and conspiracy to blackmail the Hall family.
Mrs Hammond’s body was found on Cannock Chase shortly after the trial, and has been reinterred in Yoxall churchyard.
http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2010/01/24/sick-wolverhampton-grave-robber-launches-music-career-from-prison-cell-66331-25670286/
Monday, January 18, 2010
Lewis got 3 years
He is caged and will do about 2 years then get out on a licence!
Sad really - what has he achived except ruin his own life?
The farm is still open - the tiny protests that happen can't even be seen !
What a waste! SHACWATCH blames those who don't do but encorage other, younger activists to try, and fail - you know who we mean Lyn.
More to be caged soon!
Friday, January 15, 2010
NEW Shac demo failure! (not really news -is it)
The SHAC protests against AstraZeneca continue to fail and embarrass activists throughout the AR scene. The latest was at Charnwood in Loughborough England where four rather undernourished vegans decided to follow the standard demo procedure of :
Turn up - be ignored
Wave banners - be ignored
Shout slogans - be ignored
Scream at workers - be ignored
Tell other companies why they are there - get laughed at.
While the SHAC losers were outside making fools of themselves as usual the scientists inside were making a real contribution to society as the research work at the Charnwood site is focused on finding new medicines for respiratory diseases such as asthma, chronic bronchitis and emphysema as well as inflammatory diseases such as rheumatoid and osteoarthritis.
I assume that SHAC memebrs are happy to confirm they will never want to be treated with any of the life saving medicine developed there ?
Thanks SHACWATCHER - we note this sad bunch of inadquates are too ashamed to show their faces
Tuesday, January 12, 2010
Daily Mail joins SHACWATCH
Well done the Mail - keep up the good work.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242535/Animal-rights-extremist-given-vegan-boots-ethical-make-jail---whos-footing-bill.html
Saturday, January 9, 2010
Luke still struggles with reality since his release
Shacwatch is sorry to report the relapse of Luke Steel - this was sent to us yesterday,
hahahahaha this the best u fucking nutters have slagging us of real mature
u are sick stupid pricks
get a life NETCU AND MET SADO'S
as can be seen Luke hasn't learnt anything fr0m his recent prison term - he hasn't even mastered writing yet, which, at his age is shameful!
Shacwatch urges Luke to make better use of the prison education system on his next term and to spend less time with the psychophysically disturbed.
Until ALL are caged.
Friday, January 8, 2010
An Email from a Portuguese loon!
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I am not anonymous, as I'm not Coward like you guys that are talking about other people's personnal lives, saying nothing but cruel lies and trying, yes, trying because you can't, to put someone down .
I am a shame to my species. I attach all my contact details please send me your views...
Rita Silva
(00 351) 96 132 08 18
Animal.org.pt
Apartado 2028
8501-902 Portimão
Portugal
Well - you heard her!
Thursday, January 7, 2010
SeaShepherd suffers the Curse of SHAC
Regular Shacwatchers will remember that the Sea Shepherd crew attended the failed summer SHAC gathering after it was agreed that they did not have to eat vegan 'food'.
Well they have learnt the hard lesson that involvement with SHAC inevitably leads to spectacular failure.
This hilarious video shows the donated boat being ruined as it's crew try and block a steel whaling ship with their carbon fibre hull - SHAC like stupidity!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz-YdcSk4BQ
Monday, January 4, 2010
New Year - same Crap
This is the same message as in 2005,2006,2007,2008 and 2009 - each year a bigger failure than the last!
Will you wake up and smell the non vegan coffee - you have failed - you are failures and those of you NOT already in jail will be soon.
Those not on criminal charges in 2010 really havn't tried hard enough - yes we mean you Lyn - as anybody that has stepped over the line inthe last 3 years has been caught and charged.
Ask Lewis Pogson - Ask Harris and Tapping - Ask Organ - you can evan ask the fool!
Happy new Imprisonment SHAC - try and grow up this year!
Subject: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "L SAWYER"
Date: Fri, November 19, 2010
To:
I know that we quite rightly don't disuss this shitty site but they have now printed an email from sulis from May. Thought you should all know.
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Subject: Re: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "maz"
Date: Sat, November 20, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
shit how the fuck did they get that???????????????
MAZ
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Subject: RE: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "k Blackshaw"
Date: Sat, November 20, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
The police are well aware of the existence of Sulis. I know that Gavin Medd-Hall’s computer was taken by them and postings from Sulis was found on it. I presume the same for Mel. Anyway, we have always been told that we should bear in mind when posting anything that it will be monitored by the powers that be.
Personally, I have been concerned for some time that occasionally people have been nominated for the List by members who do not really know them all that well. Perhaps the criteria for nomination should be tightened?
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November 23, 2010 1:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "Steve"
Date: Sat, November 20, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
I see three possibilities.
(1) A member of Shacwatch is on the Sulis (not very likely, if this were the case I think Shacwatch would not be able to resist putting more from the list on their website).
(2) A member of the Sulis has felt so disgruntled that they have passed the email on to Shacwatch.
(3) The police monitor the Sulis and passed the email on (not likely as surely the police would not risk letting it being known they monitor the list).
Of course I could be wrong on all counts. I am sure people who have more expertise in online security will have other answers.
Steve
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Subject: RE: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "L SAWYER"
Date: Sat, November 20, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
Another explaination. The police are involved in shacwatch themselves. We know that they post on Indy and just look at the language used in the Fitwatch post why would vivisectors care about students getting arrested or not? I am convinced that the police are involved as either individuals doing something that will get them into deep shit or doing it with the blessing of high ranking officers to which purpose I know not, I just know that I cannot proove who or what is involved
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November 23, 2010 1:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "Jo Jo"
Date: Sat, November 20, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
Shouldn't we just assume that despite security measures there are undercover coppers on this list anyway, or at the very least they read all the emails?? Not that it really matters, as there is nothing illegal about the list or anything anyone is saying on it, as I'm sure everyone is aware. Although, maybe something to bear in mind when airing disputes?
Jo
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Subject: Re: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "Luke Steele"
Date: Sat, November 20, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
No offense to anybody, but why are we even discussing this waste of time.
SHACWatch is a complete joke, we should not even be giving them our attention and diverting away from the subject which is the animals we are trying to save. It is clearly run by the police, as lots of evidence suggests, so it is no wonder they have access to our emails.
People are only as oppressed as we allow ourselves to be, and the AR movement is far from oppressed at the moment. We see people doing what we as a movement have always done and, even if it were illegal, the police don't have the resources to deal with the movement's growth over the past several months and return to actions such as run ins, sit down protests, lock-ons, rooftop occupations etc and the latest trial is nothing short of an embarrassment and joke.
Would movements of the past have cared if the police had made a sneery comment about them, or taken a photo? I doubt it, so we should not be distracted from our real objectives and aims by these sad acts.
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November 23, 2010 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "L SAWYER"
Date: Sat, November 20, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
Sorry Luke I disagree. People needed to know this so I posted it just press delete if you think it is a waste of time that's what I do for all sorts of things.Many activists are unaware of how the police are conducting themselves so I think we will just have to agree to differ on this one . Personally I wanted to ensure that people on this list were fully aware that what is put on here is not only watched by the cops but has now for the first time been posted in the public domain. Of course if everyone knew about it anyway and I have stopped people from going on demos and actions with this then of course I apologise but doubt very much that imparting this information has stopped anyone doing stuff.
I will make my own decisions about whether or not I feel reopressed by the state and right now I am not ashamed to admit that I am as are those who do not attend demos or do anything because they are frightened, it is an issue which is seen as a signifiant problem and whilst your courage and energy is astounding there are not many activists of your calibre. Indulge those of us who do wish to discuss repression and work ways around it with a little tolerance please although you are right in that it should not distract us. SW is something that in itself should not be bothered with other than something to have a laugh at normally but in this instance someone has published a private email and one from May at that, not everyone reads SW or is even aware of it so I fail to see why passing this on so that we can be a bit more careful is a major issue.
Anyway rant over I will shut up now and I love you really Luke.
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November 23, 2010 1:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Sulis] shacwatch
From: "Paul"
Date: Sun, November 21, 2010
To: sulis@lists.rbgi.net
I would recommend people not visit this site as they may have something
on it to identify your IP address. Looks like it does have Google
Analytics on it, which I think tells them who has visited.
other possibilities:
* someone has a weak password for their webmail and someone hacked into it
* someone sent a virus to someone on the list and now has a backdoor in
their computer
* someone forwarded on a sulis email to someone not on the list, who
forwarded it to other people, who forwarded it to other people, etc.