Tuesday, January 11, 2011

Dear Paul - we don't think it will help....

Subject: [Amanzi] List security
From: "Paul"
Date: Sunday November 28th, 2010
To: "Amanzi"


We have a similar list to Amanzi for the UK, and recently some emails from the (private) list have appeared on an anti-animal rights website called
shacwatch.blogspot.com

I would recommend that if you visit this site, you do it via an anonymous proxy as they will log your IP address.

We're aren't sure for certain yet how the emails were leaked, but it is possible someone's email account has been hacked into, or that an abandoned domain or email
has been taken over by someone else.

It is possible that the source of the leak is also on this list.

I suggest we do some "housekeeping" of this list by getting members to email the
administrator to verify they are still alive and reading the emails, who they are
(or something to identify them if they don't want to give a real name) and from what country, and want to remain on the list. Anyone who hasn't replied within two weeks or so could be suspended from the list until they reply.

That would get rid of any email accounts that are no longer active or being checked regularly.

Then we could double-check that the remaining people are still active and not imposters by checking with people from that country.

Maybe this should be a regular process, say once a year?

Of course it could just be a leak from the police (who we assume can read the list anyway) to the shacwatch website, but at least we cover some possibilities.

Also it might be worth changing your email account passwords in case their accounts have been hacked into somehow? Especially if the passwords are insecure dictionary words. And check things like wireless routers are set up with proper encryption (WPA2).

It does also show the usefulness of using email encryption like PGP for general
email communication.

What do people think?

Paul


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Useless Paul - your 8 vegans are on a list with 22 coppers 67 commercial intel agencies, 9 fantasists and all of the Pharmaceutical companies in the world .Oh and Lynn , natch.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good God !

They really are stupid aren't they ?

Anyone with even basic PC skills can get into email lists like these and yet they imagine it's some complex secret involving passwords, dormont accounts etc.

No wonder all of SHAC's files were compromised in 2007.

What a bunch of vegans !

Anonymous said...

Update on the Droitwich hearing aid factory balls up.

Lynn has been asking why she wasn't on the list of people who had been been planning the raid when they thought this was the new HLS research factory. Two words Lynn - "Suspected Grass"

The SHAC search for Site B goes on.

Medawar said...

This is a bit like the search for the Golden Hare, for older shacwatchers.

Medawar suspects that SHAC's own preconceptions will prevent them ever finding it.

Realist said...

I doubt that SHAC will ever find the new site and even if they do - so what ? I don't see the SHAC 'actions' making any difference to the main HLS site. Business is up, revenue is increasing, SHAC are going to jail.

Laughing my arse off said...

And it goes from bad to worse for AR / SHAC 'security'.

Fresh from the fall out of the Mark Stone infiltration (vouched for by SHAC) we have the news that long time Leeds activist Lynn Watson was also an undercover cop. PC Watson was long active in AR circles throughout Yorkshire after her introduction as "trustworthy" by....


Roll of drums





SHAC !

Yes folks SHAC has now introduced not one but two undercover police officers into the wider activist movement and vouched for them both.

What a bunch of Vegans !

Anonymous said...

On Amanzi mostly the idiots argue with each other and act like little children. Here a vegan idiot called Marcel argues with something posted by Keith Mann. Marcel is a homosexual from Germany who has a reputation for hitting on male activists (gay or not!) at AR gatherings. Keith Mann is well known but has turned into a David Icke freak over the last couple of years and now chases flying saucers. He posts a lot of anti-semitic stuff on the AR lists much to the annoyance of some of the leftist vegans. I have to say, undercover work against the AR movement is now boring. There is nothing to do but watch and laugh. They are destroying themselves without our help.



Subject: Re: [Amanzi] News Feed
From: "marcel"
Date: Tuesday January 11th, 2011
To: amanzi@gn.apc.org

> Keith Mann said:
>
> Curiously the 2012 Olympic logo spells out ZION!
>
> Not really? Coincidence? So what? If you look deeper into this event
> and its meaning you will see this is how this is very much meant to
> be. Don't take my word for it, give an hour do some research. This
> young guy Rik Clay did and came up with some fascinating findings. A
> few weeks later he was dead. Hear what had to say about this event and
> the information we should be aware of. *click here*
>


Come on, are you serious? shit, am I the only one that is absolutely
annoyed by this conspiracy bullshit? What, the zionist are taking over
the olympic games??? Come on! And now dont say "just read it" or "no one
forces you to believe that"...!
All that David Icke, NWO, conspiracy shit is so pathetic, I am ashamed
that you abuse your popularity as a former alf prisoner to get across
your weird views about modern day politics.

Keith, I have found on your website the following article by "Mike
James" or "Michael James". Did you know that this person, who's work you
publish, is denying the holocaust?
Here is an article by mike james published on your website:
http://www.fromdusktildawn.org.uk/News/2009/Nov09/the_fight_of_our_lives_destroying_the_lisbon_treaty.html

and here is what this guy has to say in other articles:
"The holocaust (Shoa) is a fraud designed to benefit and legitimise the
illegal existence of the bandit Zionist state of Israel. I have written
plenty of articles that have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the
Shoah is a Kabbalistic fairy tale of epic proportions. [...] The fact
is. The so-called “holocaust” is an “Alice in Wonderland” rip-off [...]
No Jew living today can prove conclusively that the gas chambers ever
existed. They served only as delousing clinics. The seminal testimony
“Sachenshausen-Workauta” (banned in Germany) proved beyond a shadow of a
doubt that the "gas chambers" were created as tourist attractions in
1948. There exists not one eyewitness testimony to the death of a Jew in
any so-called "gas chamber". That is an historical fact. Call me on it.
Nobody can ever prove me wrong."

I hereby publicly demand that you explain yourself for giving this
fascist neonazi asshole a plattform.


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Anonymous said...

On Amanzi mostly the idiots argue with each other and act like little children. Here a vegan idiot called Marcel argues with something posted by Keith Mann. Marcel is a homosexual from Germany who has a reputation for hitting on male activists (gay or not!) at AR gatherings. Keith Mann is well known but has turned into a David Icke freak over the last couple of years and now chases flying saucers. He posts a lot of anti-semitic stuff much to the annoyance of some of the leftist vegans. I have to say, undercover work against the AR movement is now boring. There is nothing to do but watch and laugh. They are destroying themselves without our help.

Anonymous said...

Subject: Re: [Amanzi] News Feed
From: "marcel"
Date: Tuesday January 11th, 2011
To: amanzi@gn.apc.org

> Keith Mann wrote:
>
> Curiously the 2012 Olympic logo spells out ZION!
>
> Not really? Coincidence? So what? If you look deeper into this event
> and its meaning you will see this is how this is very much meant to
> be. Don't take my word for it, give an hour do some research. This
> young guy Rik Clay did and came up with some fascinating findings. A
> few weeks later he was dead. Hear what had to say about this event and
> the information we should be aware of. *click here*
>


Come on, are you serious? shit, am I the only one that is absolutely
annoyed by this conspiracy bullshit? What, the zionist are taking over
the olympic games??? Come on! And now dont say "just read it" or "no one
forces you to believe that"...!
All that David Icke, NWO, conspiracy shit is so pathetic, I am ashamed
that you abuse your popularity as a former alf prisoner to get across
your weird views about modern day politics.

Anonymous said...

-continued from above-

Keith, I have found on your website the following article by "Mike
James" or "Michael James". Did you know that this person, who's work you
publish, is denying the holocaust?
Here is an article by mike james published on your website:
http://www.fromdusktildawn.org.uk/News/2009/Nov09/the_fight_of_our_lives_destroying_the_lisbon_treaty.html


and here is what this guy has to say in other articles:
"The holocaust (Shoa) is a fraud designed to benefit and legitimise the
illegal existence of the bandit Zionist state of Israel. I have written
plenty of articles that have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the
Shoah is a Kabbalistic fairy tale of epic proportions. [...] The fact
is. The so-called “holocaust” is an “Alice in Wonderland” rip-off [...]
No Jew living today can prove conclusively that the gas chambers ever
existed. They served only as delousing clinics. The seminal testimony
“Sachenshausen-Workauta” (banned in Germany) proved beyond a shadow of a
doubt that the "gas chambers" were created as tourist attractions in
1948. There exists not one eyewitness testimony to the death of a Jew in
any so-called "gas chamber". That is an historical fact. Call me on it.
Nobody can ever prove me wrong."

I hereby publicly demand that you explain yourself for giving this
fascist neonazi asshole a plattform.


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Antifa said...

Links between the Far Right and Animal Rights organisations are all too common. Nearly all Nazi types are pro AR because the Nazis were. In addition a lot of Left Wing and Anarchist groups are Anti-Semitic (try reading Indymedia UK for example) for historical reasons.

SHAC Sweden and the local Far Right skinheads are working openly together with joint attacks on immigrants and Jewish owned business'.

SHAC in France has two Nazis involved with its work

SHAC UK has members of the EDL and BNP plus of course idiots like Mann spouting his filth.


However none of this really bothers me that much; SHAC, the ALF, Nazis of various types are in many ways the same, they have limited support, the attract the gullible and easily led and achieve nothing in real terms.

bored of shac said...

he might be a neo-nazi but if he also thinks that the world leaders are lizards then that is good enough for keith!

Medawar said...

Ahem!
If Mr Mann really thinks that our leaders are lizards, and, as we know, it's humans that are supposed to be the cancer on the Earth, as the Georgia Guidestones say, then why ever is he opposing them?

Medawar believes in a conspiracy of horse's arses ruling the world.